Sun 26 Feb, 2012, 7:47 PM IST - India Markets closed

The School Of Hard Knocks

Many of us desire to make money from the stock markets, because it doesn't seem to take a lot of skill. After all, like a casino, all you need is one good trade. That's what we read about — the success stories of investing talk about how Warren Buffett bought into Coke, or Rakesh Jhunjhunwala bought Titan, or Paulson shorted sub-prime mortgages or such.

While these investors — and many others — have benefited from the huge success of a few stocks, there are thousands, even millions, of other investors who lost much of their money chasing performance. And not just speculating, but even with deep, well researched analysis. A stock that seemed like a steal three years ago is still a steal; they have higher profits, and a lower stock price. In another ten years, they might still have the same stock price. The "value trap" attracts people who think luck plays no role in investing, that all it takes is good analysis.  Value traps are lessons you don't learn about in books; real life teaches you instead.

I attend the School of Hard Knocks, and every time I think I'm close to graduating, I fail the next test. Here are four mistakes I've made and hopefully, learnt from.

Chasing Highs and Lows

On twitter, when I mention that a stock has fallen 10%, I get a quick response — "Is it time to buy?" Usually, it is not — it's a warning sign. But what we like is to have "caught the low" — bought it when the stock was at the bottom. This is unlikely to happen — you may catch a bottom once or twice, but it's like a falling knife that'll slice through you. When Satyam fell rapidly from over 200 to 80 in December 2008, I had decided to pick up a few shares, assuming that it was just a "margin call" or something. The news about Mr. Raju's announcement waltzed in a few minutes later, that he had lied about the company's financials all along. I sold the stock — intra-day — at Rs. 65 or so. It still languishes around those levels three years later. What I thought was a "low" at Rs. 80 went all the way to Rs. 20.

I want to sell the highs too. I held a share called Reliance Petroleum Limited (RPL) which was bought in its IPO at Rs. 60. The stock went to Rs. 240 and I decided to sell. Yet, I felt those pangs of regret as the stock went to Rs. 300. Even with a very good profit — 300% in less than two years — I felt bad that I couldn't make some more?

For the record, I have picked highs and lows; I have bought at the high and sold at the low more often than the other way around.

The Desire to "know".

A friend who had $1,000 in currency asked me if it was a good time to convert to rupees. I said I had no idea. He laughed, and asked me why I was in the finance business if I didn't know. But I honestly didn't know if:

a)      He should care where the rupee or dollar would go, in a one-off transaction, not being a trader

b)      The dollar would move further up — and therefore my friend could get a few more rupees for his dollars

c)       Any prediction would be to simply assuage my friend's need for an answer.

We all wish we could know, which is why astrology is so popular. But we don't.  The markets have asymmetrical information; different participants know different things. An investor may be aware of a problem that you and I don't — and if he sells heavily, the stock collapses; with the information we have, the stock looks attractive, but is it?

I've been trapped enough times thinking that I know more than the market — but more often than not, I've been the ignorant one. In the face of the knowledge that one doesn't really know, what's the right action? Not invest or trade? That would be pointless, because investing or trading, even with incomplete information, can lead to substantially higher returns.

Now I prefer to act another way. I expect this stock to go up. But if it comes down to X, I'll sell, assuming something happened that I didn't know. This is called a "stop loss", but it's more of a "stop the pain of not admitting my ignorance".

The Revenge Trade

And just when I've admitted I was wrong, the stock stops falling and goes back up to new highs. This short-circuits my brain, and I feel like the universe has just conspired against me.

The desire for revenge has made me jump back into a stock, only to watch the temporary move reverse and again come back to hurt me. Usually, such a trade has no logic; it's just a strong feeling that losses in one stock must be recovered from the same stock.

In the school of hard knocks, revenge is an F.

The Perspective: Percentages and Absolutes

Consider the proposal where if you invest Rs. 20,000 in certain (80CCF) bonds, you don't get taxed on that amount. With all sorts of calculations, you hear that you're really investing Rs. 14,000 (since you would have paid Rs. 6,000 as tax on that money, in the highest marginal tax bracket) And then, you get back Rs. 26,000 in five years, making your return 13.2%.

While the 13% is attractive, the entire exercise allows you to earn Rs. 12,000 in five years (assuming the 6,000 in tax saving, and 6,000 in interest).That's Rs. 2,400 per year, or Rs. 200 per month. When you are earning more than Rs. 8 lakhs per year — that's at the highest tax bracket — the amount saved is significantly lower than the joy you feel by hearing "13%".

I have bought stock options for Rs. 100, which tripled in one day. I was overjoyed — 200% in one day. Now let's see: 365 days in a year, 200% a day — that makes me…very stupid. The point here is not just that I can't find such trades every day (and I'll lose my shirt on many of them), it's also that the amount I can invest in options has to necessarily be small, because you can lose 100%. If I invest just 2% of my portfolio on a single trade, and I double my money, the real profit on my total portfolio is just 2%. Nothing to write home about.

Absolutes and percentages both matter; when you get a high percentage return on a single trade, the school of hard knocks tells you to evaluate the overall return on your portfolio instead. You don't appreciate a car that has a great steering wheel if its engine misfires, its headlamps don't work and the seat is uncomfortable. You don't praise one good trade if you have three equal (or worse!) bad ones burning your portfolio.

Perhaps you invested five years ago, when the India story was going strong and they told you, like they told me, that India was the next big thing. Five years have gone, India's GDP and per capita income have doubled, car sales have quadrupled, and yet, markets have returned a miserable 4% per annum, just about beating the savings deposit rate. India's stock market behaves very differently from the rest of India, we learn, as we pass through another year in the school of hard knocks.

Deepak Shenoy is co-founder at MarketVision, a financial knowledge company and writes at Capital Mind. You can reach him at deepakshenoy@gmail.com or @deepakshenoy.

 

45 comments

  • Kailashchandra  •  Mumbai, Maharashtra  •  23 days ago
    Put some mind in analysis, really losses will be the least.
  • Chandrakant Gumaste  •  Pune, Maharashtra  •  1 month 0 days ago
    This is the reality of the Stock Market everywhere.
  • sethu  •  27 days ago
    look at metrics,macros.buy companies with good management and solid prospects.don't listen to analysts too much.buy on dips in a staggered fashion to get an attractive long term pricing and one will definitely make money.
  • clarity  •  29 days ago
    i don't think i have met a person who makes his living out of trading. that says enough about how easy it is a to make money trading :-)
  • Dharam Pal  •  New Delhi, Delhi  •  29 days ago
    The above is very true. Most of the over confident investors lose their hard earned money like that. Investors should learn from the above story.
  • DavidB  •  1 month 0 days ago
    This article is true, but cannot be suited to some cases. For example, if you have some 100 Jambhals, what to do? Similarly, if you have 120 Chambals, what to do? So, this article needs to be traded in proper lots like options.
  • MALVIKA  •  Jaipur, Rajasthan  •  1 month 1 day ago
    Hence wise people say Treat Greed and Fear equally and get satisfied with what you earned in gambling
  • SANTIRANJAN ACHARYYA  •  1 month 2 days ago
    These are facts.But what are the qualities of an investor to correctly predict the market behaviour?
  • Sipho Sahoo  •  Bangalore, Karnataka  •  1 month 1 day ago
    very nice..........
  • Ganesh  •  Visakhapatnam, Andhra Pradesh  •  1 month 0 days ago
    In my opinion it is more profitable to trade in commodity. Satyam can go down to Rs20/- but can Gold go down to 20/- never. So it is very safe to trade in commodity., but first learn the fundamentals ie candle sticks, sochastic ,etc and never depend on calls. You will earn samay se pehaley and kismat sey jyada...I have learnt this the hard way losing nearly 5lakhs so gusy be careful..First learn
  • Tanaji  •  Bhubaneswar, Orissa  •  29 days ago
    tanaji chavan
  • Tanaji  •  Bhubaneswar, Orissa  •  29 days ago
    tanaji chavan
  • NAGARAJAN  •  Chennai, Tamil Nadu  •  29 days ago
    I hope all are aware that the Stock market is with very few people.50% of the market is with top 50-100 clients.These 50 or 100 clients with top 10 Brokers.Once has to be very careful in doing Share market.If you do not know or if you are very rich to take the risk,please do not enter in the market.It is big big game.Small players are trapped and rich become richer.
  • PRASANNA  •  , Karnataka  •  1 month 1 day ago
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  • asokan  •  Madurai, Tamil Nadu  •  29 days ago
    I made the mistake of entering the stock market trade without a good knowledge. I even believed that the staff at the brokerage office had good knowledge and would be able to help. I made profit only when I invested for long term, in a good company, bought in small lots over long time on every fall in the market. I lost every time when I speculated and tried my luck.
  • ANANTHANARAYANAN  •  Bangalore, Karnataka  •  29 days ago
    I am in this stock market since 1983 and I fully agree with Deepak. Every time I think myself to be intelligent and make a smart move, the market behaves as if some devil knows all my mind and beats me. I stopped frequent buying and selling of shares thinking speculation kills and started keeping shares for long term. Now that strategy is also not working and the market is dragging and dragging killing my patience. Now my another strategy is hold on, hold on, hold on until the market looses patience.
  • DEEN DAYAL  •  Mumbai, Maharashtra  •  28 days ago
    . Buy low-sell high. As simple as this concept appears to be, the vast majority of investors do the exact opposite. Your ability to consistently buy low and sell high, will determine the success, or failure, of your investments. Your rate of return is determined 100% by when you enter the stock market.

    The stock market is always right and price is the only reality in trading. If you want to make money in any market, you need to mirror what the market is doing. If the market is going down and you are long, the market is right and you are wrong. If the stock market is going up and you are short, the market is right and you are wrong.

    If you are looking for "reasons" that stocks or markets make large directional moves, you will probably never know for certain. Since we are dealing with perception of markets-not necessarily reality, you are wasting your time looking for the many reasons markets move.

    The trend is your friend. Since the trend is the basis of all profit, we need long term trends to make sizeable money. The key is to know when to get aboard a trend and stick with it for a long period of time to maximize profits. Contrary to the short term perspective of most investors today, all the big money is made by catching large market moves - not by day trading or short term stock investing.

    You must let your profits run and cut your losses quickly if you are to have any chance of being successful. Trading discipline is not a sufficient condition to make money in the markets, but it is a necessary condition. If you do not practice highly disciplined trading, you will not make money over the long term. This is a stock trading system in itself.

    Never trust the advice and/or ideas of trading software vendors, stock trading system sellers, market commentators, financial analysts, brokers, newsletter publishers, trading authors, etc., unless they trade their own money and have traded successfully for years.
    Note those that have traded successfully over very long periods of time are very few in number. Keep in mind that Wall Street and other financial firms make money by selling you something - not instilling wisdom in you. You should make your own trading decisions based on a rational analysis of all the facts.

    The most successful investing methods should take most individuals no more than four or five hours per week and, for the majority of us, only one or two hours per week with little to no stress involved.
  • biraja  •  Mumbai, Maharashtra  •  1 month 2 days ago
    good article
  • venugopal  •  Chennai, Tamil Nadu  •  1 month 0 days ago
    The article is good.If the scrip starts falling just wait till it closes better from the previous days close before buying and have a stoploss at previous days low that is one of the important thing everybody should see. lot of people doesnt even know what is yesterdays high low or the close(which is very important). First we should equip ourselves before entering and never blame the market.

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